Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Jacob Kramer-Duffield's avatar

At the risk of proposing a Theory of Everything, I think - maybe! - part of what happened in 2023 was a continued cleavage of our culture/discourse/economy into, broadly, the materialist and post-materialist ("vibes") camps. We see this also in the confounding and uneven reception of macroeconomic data, the stickiness of glib misinformation in the face of contradictory actions and reality (see: student loan forgiveness, responsibility for). Probably the continued gutting of our information ecosystem at every level teamed with continued dissipation of faith in institutions has something to do with this!

But also, this would explain why there's a resurgent labor movement focused on and motivated by real material concerns happening at the same time as you have the return of goofy tech valuations - a widening *epistemic* divide.

Expand full comment
Pittsburgh Mike's avatar

GOOG is trading at a PE of 26; that's not insane for a company that owns a significant chunk of the online ads business, has a decent share of the cloud computing business (which will only grow as security issues continue and software gets more complicated to manage), and may even have usable self-driving car technology.

MSFT's PE is 35, but they've had better growth than Google, and (much) less of it is in the highly variable ad business. MSFT has the 2nd largest cloud business after AMZ, and they own the office productivity business.

AAPL has a PE of 29, and they own the consumer cloud the way that MSFT owns the business cloud. AND they sell hardware that's essentially impossible for mortal humans to clone.

A lot of these stocks took a hit when interest rates went up to ~5%. They're going back up because falling interest rates mean that soon you'll have to do something smarter with your cash than just buy T bills.

You discuss Crypto as if it has no value, but it is very valuable to criminals who can use it to launder money. They can also use the Etherium block chain, if I understand it correctly, to create their own coins, which they can then pump-and-dump.

The Metaverse was a huge money suck for FB; it was hopelessly bad idea. Zuckerberg pulling the plug on it just means more profit for FB. Kudos to Mark for pulling the ripcord *before* hitting the ground.

Generative AI is harder to evaluate. I don't really understand regular machine learning; I only understand back propagation for about 30 minutes after reading an explanation of it, before it fades away again, and Generative AI is more complicated than just back prop. It looks like it can generate mediocre answers to a fair number of queries, although it BS's when it doesn't know the answer, and sometimes even when it does. It sounds, more or less, like a fairly bad employee trying to hide the fact that they don't really know how their business works. Given how expensive these things are to operate, it probably makes more sense to hire the bad employee than go all-in on an AI system that can't even tell you how it made any decisions.

All in all, the only thing that looks bubblicious right now is generative AI -- deploying it to do real jobs from 9-5 would require a massive energy budget and still promises a crappy result at best.

Expand full comment
28 more comments...

No posts